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So, I'm going to ask everyone to do better than their best (I know how does one do THAT!) and refrain from commenting on or critiquing on individuals dialoguing in this thread unless they are book authors or you want to compliment/praise them.
Logic should be met by logic, not ad hominem remarks. This kind of disagreement should be a welcome feature, as long as we're all looking at the facts. I believe in unity, but not the kind of false unity which is built upon any of us merely deciding to feign a false agreement on issues about which we think differently and feel passionately.
"In the essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity."
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