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Biblical Equality Discussion / Re: Interesting Post on Roger Olson's Blog
« Last post by TL on March 10, 2015, 01:12:56 PM »
 :smileyflower:

I can't remember how many times I've been told that I was lying by a certain person who now strongly supports patriarchy.   :bangin:
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Biblical Equality Discussion / Re: Interesting Post on Roger Olson's Blog
« Last post by Don on March 10, 2015, 12:15:53 PM »
yes
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Biblical Equality Discussion / Re: Interesting Post on Roger Olson's Blog
« Last post by KR Wordgazer on March 10, 2015, 10:54:07 AM »
Of course we believed you, TL!  :lol:
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Blog Recommendations / Re: What's new on your blog? #2
« Last post by TL on March 10, 2015, 07:48:33 AM »
Piper dug his hole on pride and dug it so far down he can't get out and can only keep digging.  Sad story.  Sadder still is that women and men believe him.
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Blog Recommendations / Re: What's new on your blog? #2
« Last post by Don on March 10, 2015, 04:22:35 AM »
My take is he is being hoist by his own petard.  He keeps saying outrageous things but does not want people to think he is simply totally crazy, so he has to come up with some kinds of reasoning (not really good reasoning, but he thinks it makes sense and apparently so do his acolytes).  It is simply time to keep saying the emperor has no clothes.
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Biblical Equality Discussion / Re: Interesting Post on Roger Olson's Blog
« Last post by Don on March 10, 2015, 04:16:41 AM »
In the just out Priscilla Papers.
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Blog Recommendations / Re: What's new on your blog? #2
« Last post by Rose on March 09, 2015, 11:22:44 PM »
Is it even possible for men not to be (even accidently) taught by women?

Is there any difference between what we do "in the world" and what we do in church? If a woman can't teach a man in church, then surely she can't teach a man in any other environment either. This would actually mean she can't express an opinion on anything, for fear a man would hear her and learn from it... And when is a boy too old to have female teachers?

I know Piper makes a distinction between learning on an accidental basis and on a more permanent basis (it's okay to listen to a woman teaching, just as long as you don't look to her for spiritual guidance), but that's ridiculous. Such a distinction is never made in the Bible. Also, I shouldn't look to any one human being for spiritual guidance, I should read the Bible and pray and talk to lots and lots of brothers and sisters.

Anyway, if you adopt his views, it's a lot better to be a woman: we're allowed to learn from anyone  :jump:, while men are severely restricted. Poor guys...
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Blog Recommendations / Re: What's new on your blog? #2
« Last post by Rose on March 09, 2015, 11:08:23 PM »
It seems that original sin was letting the woman talk while her husband was there???
And me thinking it was about disobeying God...
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Blog Recommendations / Re: What's new on your blog? #2
« Last post by Marg on March 09, 2015, 10:52:04 PM »
Thanks TL.

I strongly believe the heresy in Ephesus, that Paul is addressing, is an early form of Gnosticism.  Irenaeus, Tertullian, and Eusebius and others also believed this.

What I find hard to believe is this audio of John Piper answering the question "Can a Woman Preach If Elders Affirm It?"
https://soundcloud.com/askpastorjohn/can-a-woman-preach-if-elders-affirm-it-episode-533

How can any sane, discerning, Bible reading person believe this rubbish? He has gone too far!
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Biblical Equality Discussion / Re: Interesting Post on Roger Olson's Blog
« Last post by TL on March 09, 2015, 06:31:06 PM »
Where is Giles full paper, Don.
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