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Blog Recommendations / Re: What's new on your blog? #2
« Last post by Greg on Yesterday at 09:16:25 AM »


Pascal's Wager on Women in Ministry:   http://bit.ly/1wgCI9T


Thanks to Don for helping me spell Pascal correctly!    :yes:
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New members / Re: Hello everyone
« Last post by Rose on Yesterday at 08:06:54 AM »
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Of course a woman is going to be, and has every right to be, concerned about questions of doctrine that affect women exclusively.
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Blog Recommendations / Re: What's new on your blog? #2
« Last post by Marg on October 29, 2014, 12:17:24 PM »
Seeing this a bit late, but thanks KR.     :thankyouhrt:

My latest post is about my beliefs concerning the "Christian Egalitarian" ideaology, also known as "Biblical Equality".

http://newlife.id.au/equality-and-gender-issues/christian-egalitarianism-in-a-nutshell/
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New members / Re: Hello everyone
« Last post by KR Wordgazer on October 28, 2014, 06:37:10 AM »
Wow, I just noticed I never officially said "hello" -- Hi Rose!

 :welcome:

This thing about questioning the motives of a woman who questions restrictions on women is nothing more than a silencing technique.  Of course a woman is going to be, and has every right to be, concerned about questions of doctrine that affect women exclusively.  "Don't talk about it" really means "protect the status quo at all costs."  But the fact that no one's talking actually doesn't mean no one notices the Emperor's state of undress.
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New members / Re: Hello everyone
« Last post by Elaine on October 26, 2014, 04:44:29 PM »
Welcome Rose!  I'm a fellow study head, attending a Methodist Church in the U.S.A.
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New members / Re: Hello everyone
« Last post by Don on October 26, 2014, 05:14:04 AM »
Some gender hierarchs teach that if you do not agree with them, then you have abandoned the Bible, etc.  It is actually very abusive as its goal is to stifle any questioning.  There can be people who go to the leaders and threaten to leave if the subject is even discussed, so there can be reasons behind the hesitancy to discuss it.
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New members / Re: Hello everyone
« Last post by Marg on October 26, 2014, 01:00:00 AM »
Many Australians with a Dutch heritage belong to the Dutch Reformed Church in Australia, but the church is certainly not as common as the Anglicans or Baptists.  I think it is roughly on par with the Lutherans as far as numbers go.
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New members / Re: Hello everyone
« Last post by Rose on October 25, 2014, 08:19:24 PM »
Hello Marg!

I was thinking, Dutch Reformed ouside of the Netherlands may not be the same. It may man "a dutch, reformed church" rather than the dutch reformed denomination as we know it here? It came into existence rather late, when my father was a teenager or later, so it's probably not very widespread outside of The Netherlands.

Which only shows how complicated the whole denomination thing is...
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General Theology / Re: headship in Eph 5:22-23
« Last post by Marg on October 25, 2014, 05:56:01 PM »

Keeping in mind that the name "Septuagint" refers to the 70 translators involved in that work, it appears that perhaps one translator out of  seventy might not have been familiar enough with both languages to avoid making the error of using kephale in that way. Perhaps it was a Hebrew that used "rosh" for leaderhship all the time... and kephale means the same as rosh so....? (This is all my conjecture.)

I believe that kephale in 5:22 is an intimacy metaphor. Just as it's use in 4:15 is not about authority but about oneness, so it is in 5:22.


The idea that the Septuagint was written by 70 translators is most likely a myth.  And it is evident that some of the Hebrew-Greek translators weren't up to the job, especially the translator(s) of Judges. 
http://newlife.id.au/church-history/the-septuagint/

I also think that "head" in Ephesians 5:22-33 is part of a head-body metaphor with the implication of association and even intimacy, rather than leadership.  Leadership, or in the case of Jesus, Lordship, is never mentioned in this passage.  Rather loving sacrifice is one of the main themes. 
http://newlife.id.au/equality-and-gender-issues/pauls-main-point-in-eph-5_22-33/
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New members / Re: Hello everyone
« Last post by Marg on October 24, 2014, 11:26:50 PM »
Hi Rose,

I have a Dutch Reformed background, but the Dutch Reformed Church is very conservative in Australia where I live, and they do not allow women to do all sort of things.

I am also interested in the biblical languages . . . well Greek mainly.
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